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Minutes of the 24th NCOWS Territorial Congress November 19th & 20th, 2005 Embassy Suites Hotel, KC International Airport, Kansas City, MO
Marshal Thorpe called the meeting to order, Saturday, November 19, 8:33 AM.
Present: Territorial Senators Rob Brannon, Chad Carpenter, George Glenn, Lee Goodwin, John Irons, Cindy Rollins, Dave Scott, Tracy Thorpe, George Warnick. Territorial Representatives Tom Burman (Palmer Creek Vigilance Committee), Jack Bursovsky (Blue River Regulators), Robert Chenault (Johnson County Rangers), Steve Coop (Great Lakes Freight & Mining Company), Ray Garnatz (Western Iowa Border Agents), Norm Rollins (Nebraska Territorial Rangers), John Torrence (Kansas Vigilance Committee). Present by Proxy: Territorial Senators Jim Boeke, Duane Hartwig, Angie Kroemer, Jay Weber, Dave Williams. Territorial Representatives Dennis Alvestad (Fort Des Moines Rangers), Steve Caldwell (Border Regulators), Danny Ellison (Hat Creek Regulators), Pete Ersland (Hickory Hill Regulators), Rob Fulcher (Crab Orchard Cowboys), Dave Howrey (Wood River Horse Thieves), Jan Molhuysen (Lowland Regulators), Thomas Spanton (Wisconsin Old West Shootists), Karen Weber (Cedar Valley Regulators). Absent: Territorial Representatives George Carr (Auglaize Rough Riders), Paul Jensen (Colorado Congress of Old West Shootists & Social Club), David Lassen (Sand Creek Raiders), Peter Menyhart (Whitehorse Regulators). Guests: Michael Tatham, Robert H. Dorian, Bill Proctor, John Covert, Michael Torrence, Herb Gindulis.
The Minutes of the 23rd Territorial Congress were approved as published.
Banker John Irons presented the financial report: Assets of $53,640.16; Liabilities & Equity, $53, 640.16. Year-to-Date Expenses $22,961.41; Year-to-Date Income $25, 442.75. Assets are distributed as follows: 15 month CD (6-15) @ 3.45%, $10,000; 3 month CD (9-15) @1.89%, $5,016.28; 6 month CD (6-15) @ 1.59%, $5,000; NCOWS Checking, $2,988.60; NCOWS Savings $30,635.28. Banker’s Report was accepted as presented.
Editor’s Report: Editor George Warnick reported that we have a new printer for The Shootist. The magazine is now costing us $2.00 per member per year.
Judge Chad Carpenter stated that we are here to help NCOWS and NCOWS Posses develop and grow.
Guest Bill Proctor displayed his original painting for the Sept/Oct Shootist cover; the painting has been donated to NCOWS and will be raffled off at the 2006 Convention and Old West Show & Sale.
Senator Dave Scott asked that the following statement be read into the record: “As most of you know, within just a few days after I returned home from the Nationals, my son, Jason Scott, suffered an unexpected but fatal heart arrhythmia. He was only 34 years old, a husband and a father, a sergeant with the Hancock County, Indiana, Sheriff’s Department and a reenactor with the Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company in the persona of ‘Rafe McKinley.’ Soon after, we received an outpouring of support from NCOWS members – some of whom are here in this room and many others who are not – in the way of cards, letters, phone calls, e-mails, flowers and contributions. I would like to humbly request that it be noted for the record and made an official part of the Minutes of this Congress that on behalf of myself and the other members of Jason’s family we wish to express our sincere and heartfelt gratitude for the support, the kindness and the generosity of the NCOWS organization and its members during this tragic time for us. Thank you.”
The Congress moved on to the published agenda items.
Motion to approve The Crab Orchard Cowboys as an NCOWS Posse, Glenn/Scott. Passed 31-0.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by adding “if there are at least three shooters registered for any given class. The group hosting the event may waive the three-shooter minimum.” Glenn/Scott. After discussion the motion was withdrawn.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by dividing each shooting class into Men’s and Women’s, e.g. Men’s Black Powder Shootist and Women’s Black Powder Shootist, etc. C. Rollins/Chenault. Motion passed 28-3. Voting “No” were Ellison, Fulcher, Hartwig.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by eliminating the separate Ladies’ Class. Glenn/C. Rollins. Passed 27-1, 3 abstentions. Voting “No” was Ellison; abstaining were Ersland, Hartwig, Kroemer.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by adding an Elder Men’s and Women’s Class, open to those over age 70 only; may use any of the above shooting styles. Carpenter/Goodwin. Passed 26-4, 1 abstain. Voting “No” were Ellison, Hartwig, Kroemer, Molhuysen; N. Rollins abstained.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by amending the Senior Class to be open to those over age 60. Garnatz/Goodwin. Motion withdrawn.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by adding: Youth, Boys and Girls: shall be open to those age 9-13 only, may use any of the above shooting styles. Will use only rifle and shotgun on all stages (subject to all local, state and federal firearms laws). May se .22 rifle and .410 shotgun on main stage to accommodate smaller stature. Will be encouraged to begin using NCOWS-approved firearms as the participant gains experience and physically develops. Carpenter/Burman. Scott moved to amend the motion by substituting “those firearms permitted under” for Only rifle and shotgun on all stages . . .”, second by Chenault. Amendment and motion withdrawn.
Motion to amend By-Law 10-1 by changing the Junior Class to be limited to ages 14-17. Motion withdrawn.
Motion to Amend By-Law 10-1 by adding to the Working Class Cowboy definition: “There will be no more than two single round revolver reloads per match. Shooter will shoot the same sequence as the first revolver and rifle in the other classes.” Williams/Coop. After some discussion Coop withdrew his second; motion died for lack of a second.
As a result of the above actions, By-Law 10-1 now reads as follows:
10-1. All NCOWS shooting classes, as established by By-Law, must be made available to all shooters at each National, Regional or Charter Posse Shoot. These classes shall be: Men’s and Women’s Smokeless Shootist: Shooters may shoot smokeless powder and may fire handguns using a two-handed grip. Men’s and Women’s Blackpowder Shootist: Shooters must shoot blackpowder or approved blackpowder substitute powder in all firearms except those chambered for rimfire cartridges, and may fire handguns using a two-handed grip. Shotguns may NOT include any model of pump shotgun. Men’s and Women’s Smokeless Duelist: Shooters may shoot smokeless powder and must fire handguns using a one-handed grip. Men’s and Women’s Blackpowder Duelist: Shooters must shoot blackpowder or approved black powder substitute in all firearms except those chambered for rimfire cartridges, and must fire handguns using a one-handed grip. Shotguns may NOT include any model of pump shotgun. Men’s and Women’s Pistoleer: Shooters are restricted to the use of percussion revolvers, pre-1873 percussion or original/authentic reproductions of rimfire cartridge pocket pistols, exposed-hammer double-barrel shotguns (percussion or cartridge), and reproduction or original pre-1873 pistol-caliber repeating rifles (e.g. 1860 Henry, Spencer, 1866 Winchester, etc: Shooters must shoot blackpowder or approved blackpowder substitute powder in all firearms except those chambered for rimfire cartridges. Pistols and revolvers must be shot one-handed. Pistoleer shooters will shoot the same course of fire as the other competitors except that in a stage requiring more than two shotgun rounds the Pistoleer shooter would not be required to shoot the extra rounds. Men’s and Women’s Seniors: Shall be open to those over age 60 only, may use any of the above shooting styles. Men’s and Women’s Elder: Shall be open to those over the age of 70 only, may use any of the above shooting styles. Boy’s and Girl’s Juniors: Shall be open to those age 12 to 17 only, may use any of the above shooting styles. Men’s and Women’s Working Cowboy: Shooter uses one pistol and one pistol caliber rifle. Smokeless or Black Powder cartridges may be used. No gun carts are to be used at any time. Pistol may be fired with one or two hands.
In addition to these classes, Chartered Clubs and special events may offer additional classes so long as they adhere to the general outline of these By-Laws.
Motion to Amend By-Law 3-2 by changing the proxy definition to read: “by providing his/her written proxy to a Territorial Senator or representative. Proxies may be general or specific in nature.” Glenn/Chenault. Passed 21-9, one abstention. Voting “No” were Bursovsky, Garnatz, Goodwin, Irons, Molhuysen, C. Rollins, N. Rollins, Spanton, K. Weber. Carpenter abstained.
Motions to amend By-Law 3-2 by adding “without sufficient excuse approved by the Territorial Congress” and by striking “Action taken by this By-law may be rescinded at next Territorial Congress Meeting by 2/3 vote of Congress present” were withdrawn.
By-Law 3-2 as amended now reads:
3-2. Any Territorial Senator or Representative who cannot attend a Territorial Congress must notify the NCOWS office or the Marshal either with the name of the NCOWS member who will be attending in his/her place (votes will be recorded as "<X> voting for <Y>") or by providing his/her written proxy to a Territorial Senator or Representative. Proxies may be general or specific in nature. Proxy votes of "Abstain" will be permitted for any/all agenda items. Any Territorial Senator or Representative who fails to fulfill their duties as proscribed in this paragraph shall be removed from office and may not run for re-election for a period of three (3) years. Action taken by this By-law may be rescinded at next Territorial Congress Meeting by 2/3 vote of Congress present.
The Congress recessed for lunch. Congress called back to order 1:15 PM.
Motion to add the Taurus “Gaucho” single-action revolver to the list of approved firearms. N. Rollins/Goodwin. Passed 27-2, two abstentions. Voting “No” were Caldwell, Trueman. Abstaining were Kroemer, Molhuysen.
Motion from the floor to add the USFA “Rodeo” to the list of approved firearms. N. Rollins/ Chenault. Motion failed (proxies not voting) 3-7, 6 abstaining. Voting “Yes” were Chenault, N. Rollins, Thorpe. Abstaining were Burman, Bursovsky, Carpenter, Garnatz, Goodwin, C. Rollins.
By consensus the Congress agreed that Marshal Thorpe could appoint an interim Firearms Authenticity Committee, to be Chaired by Chad Carpenter. Anyone wishing to add a new firearm to the “Approved” list should have the request and supporting documentation in to Committee Chair Carpenter by January 30, 2006 so that the request may be submitted to the Secretary for the agenda for the 25th Territorial Congress.
Motion to approve the Kansas Vigilance Committee 2-Gun Shoot May 5-7, 2006; the Fort Des Moines Rangers’ 4th Annual Shootout at Coyote Gulch June 2-4, 2006: the Nebraska Territorial Rangers’ 8th Annual NCOWS Midwest Regional September 22-24, 2006. Irons/Coop. Passed 30-0, Hartwig abstaining.
Motion to add the “Originals” class to By-Law 10-1. Glenn/Warnick. Motion to table passed on a voice vote (proxies not voting).
Motion to ban “short-stroke” modifications to lever-action rifles/shotguns. Glenn/Scott. Scott moved the previous question, second by Coop. Motion passes 14-2 (proxies not voting); voting “No” Bursovsky, Warnick. Main motion passes, 20-11. Voting “No” were Alvestad, Carpenter, Caldwell, Goodwin, Kroemer, C. Rollins, N. Rollins, Thorpe, Trueman, J. Weber, K. Weber.
Banker Irons presented a report by Jay Weber on the 2005 National Shoot at the Prairie Fire Range, hosted by the Cedar Valley Regulators. There were a total of 68 shooters registered for the shoot; 26 shot the buffalo match, 19 shot the mid-range match, 17 the revolver side match, 17 the shotgun side match, 21 the 2-gun side match, 10 the multiple-gun side match and 24 the two-man team shotgun match. One hundred-eleven attended the banquet. Twenty-one camped. Total shoot income was $6,745. Total shoot expenses (including $750.00 for the 1866 rifle to be given away and $870.00 to Groninga Hills, LLC) were $5,392.94. Net income from the shoot was $1,352.06
John Irons (Chair of the National Shoot Range Committee – members Rob Brannon, Dave Scott) presented two additional possibilities for National Shoot venues: a report on a large commercial shooting site in southern Illinois (not really a proposal as such), and a proposal from Groninga Hills, LLC (not the same as the previously-received proposal from the Cedar Valley Regulators).
Congress adjourned for the day at 5:03 PM.
Congress was called to order again Sunday, November 20, 8:40 AM. Roll Call – same as Saturday.
Herb Gindulis presented an up-date on the 2006 Old West Show and Sale. There are many activities, numerable seminars and workshops, and it looks as though it’s going to be bigger and better than ever.
Bursovsky moved to hold the 26th Territorial Congress on July 29-30, 2006. Second Torrence. Passed on a show of hands – nobody abstaining or voting “No.”
Motion to reimburse Territorial Senators and Representatives a portion of their travel expenses was withdrawn. John Irons will head a committee to study the matter further and make a recommendation at the 25th Congress in February.
Next on the agenda were the proposals for hosting the 2006 National Shoot. The Chair noted that he had failed to get the proposals submitted by the Range Committee to the Secretary in time for them to be placed on the agenda. Since the Range Committee proposals were not on the published agenda, and thus those voting by proxy would have no vote on them, it was ruled that only the two proposals on the agenda would be considered.
Motion to hold the 2006 National Shoot at Prairie Fire Range, hosted by the Cedar Valley Regulators. Torrence. Motion died for lack of a second.
Motion to accept the Johnson County Rangers’ proposal to host the 2006 National Shoot at the Hooten Old Town facility in McKee, Kentucky, June 14-17, 2006. Garnatz/Bursovsky. Passed 25-3, 3 abstentions. Voting “No” were Alvestad, Howrey, K. Weber. Abstaining were Burman, Caldwell, Spanton.
Initial agenda items for the 25 Territorial Congress in February, 2006, were listed: Approval of new firearms; approve any additional proposals for regional shoots; up-date safety rules and regulations; discuss reimbursement of travel expenses (Glenn and Irons to work on this); move “Form a Posse” page information into the By-Laws (Glenn will work on this); discuss a mechanism for disenfranchising “deadbeat” Posses; discuss proposed definitions of pocket pistols (Danny Ellison); remove “Originals Class” proposal from the table; clarify what constitutes an “official NCOWS event.”
The 24th Territorial Congress adjourned at 11:00 AM. The 25th Territorial Congress will convene Friday, 17 February, 2006, at the Mid-America Convention Center, Council Bluffs, Iowa. Time and place TBA.
Respectively submitted George D. Glenn, Secretary |